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The Art of Masculinity

Dec 29, 2022

On this episode, we talked about:

How Jay and John started their own play
Freedom vs. security
How liberal are you really?
Being kind to each other
Fire or fly instinct
Acting in the moment
Knowing your true nature
Dropping ego to solve problems
Making things right with people
How to deal with conflict
Giving yourself excuses to apologize
The "scrotum talk"
It's hard to be a man in this society
What it means to be a man
Breaking down who you are
Embracing your femininity
Evolving from who we are 

"No matter how successful you are, when you're dealing with art, you have to make it, every piece of art is handmade"


"Once your mind is flooded, there's nothing you can do at that moment, it is very difficult, so you have to act prior to that"


"You don't know someone, man or woman if you don't work with them in a really high-pressure situation"


About John and Jay:

Jay Martel is an Emmy®, Peabody®, WGA, and American Comedy Award winner for his work writing and producing TV and film and is a regular contributor to The New Yorker. He has served as showrunner for acclaimed shows including Alternatino with Arturo Castro, Teachers, and Key & Peele. 

John Lehr is the star and creator of multiple TV series and is most widely known as one of the original Geico cavemen. His story-based comedy has appeared in LA, NYC Off-Broadway, Montreal Comedy Festival and in clubs across the U.S. He is also a seasoned host, Master of Ceremony, Toastmaster, and guest lecturer/teacher. 

Together, they have been performing their 2-man, 1-hour pop-up play SPEED BUMP, an immersive theatrical experience, in people’s backyards over the past year.  These two really give a voice [of hilarity] to emotions, personal, and social issues that we don’t always expect to hear men share “out loud.”

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